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Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:21 pm

I was just watching t.v and they were talking about pyramids on the top shell of a tortise and that it was a bad thing and it was due to poor feeding. My baby is not a tortise but he is starting to get pyrimids at the center of his shell. should I be concerned and if so what do I do about this.
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:52 pm

That would depend on the type of turtle, some turtles have a ridge along the length of the turtle, that is how they are, piramids on a turtle are very serious, someone posted on this board a link to pictures of piramids on a turtle.
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:40 pm

if he gets prymiding then it shortens his life span i would cut down on the amount of food given to him so it doesnt get any worse, and as STRAYKINGFISHER said it does matter on the type of turtle it is, wish you luck
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:22 pm

How much food have you\'ve been feeding him? Often, people who feed to many reptile sticks see there turtles pyramiding. Cut back down a bit and see how that works.
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:35 pm

thanks
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:13 pm

ok then keep floating green leaves in the tank with him so he\'ll eat it when he is hungry
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:16 pm

I read that pyramiding is irreversible, so be careful about feeding.

Try these sites for info on pyramiding:

http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Pyramiding.htm
http://www.turtlestuff.com/pyramid.html
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:50 pm

The degree to which it can be reversed depends on the age of the turtle (and how long the condition has existed). If you feed your turtle a balanced diet and don\'t overfeed in addition to a proper habitat, you shouldn\'t have to worry about pyramiding.
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:45 pm

Despite intense veterinary management and supervision by the person who adopted these tortoises,the tortoise
on the right eventually died. Although pyramiding and related health problems can be slowed or halted from
further progression, once the damage is done, it\'s not reversible. Most animals who do not survive the
complications of pyramiding die from renal failure, systemic infection, and/or respitratory/cardiac problems.
From: http://www.turtlestuff.com/pyramid.html

According to this article, you can slow it down or halted but once the damage is done that\'s it.
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:54 pm

is to much feeding the result of this?
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:18 pm

4. Too much grocery produce containing too much moisture, few vitamins and little fiber.
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:25 am

i took a closer look at my turtle and found out they are over wieght so i have cut back to once a day and i am feeding them premade hot house turtle food that is recomended by turtle breeders so this food wont have to many vitimins will it
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Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:54 am

u can also take them for a walk daily..if the weather is too cold outside then do it at home..i use cushions or books or anything to make a fence and they have the whole area to walk and excersise..they\'re doing it every other day now cz i have exams but when i\'m done they\'ll do it at least 1 hour daily
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:47 pm

So I relly need to watch what I feed him and how much. I kind of don\'t want to put floating greens in there because it really makes for more tank cleaning. I think maybe it might be the animal protiens. I was feeding him frozen beefheart at least three times a day. I stopped that though. But how do I know if he is getting enough vitamin D3. Should I get him some supplements?
I also don\'t exercise him. Should I start doing this?
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:14 pm

He can get the Vit D3 he needs from a UVB light (he needs this in addition to a heat/basking light). Many reputable commerical pellets also contain Vit. D3 (and many powdered calcium supplement do as well), but A UVB light would be the best as added insurance. (In the summer, taking him outside on warm days for unfiltered sunlight several times a week would meed his UVB needs.) The UVB rays are converted to Vit D3 when he basks.
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Sat Jan 08, 2005 5:25 pm

Mariza,u said the ratio calcium/vitD/phosphorus are important...i know it\'s easy to give too much phosphorus but my question is;is it easy to give too much calcium and vitD? like i use rep-cal for supplement(roll the humid pellet in it)is there a average i should do it?should i do it every time i feed or only once a week?? maybe i should post that in another post?!?Sorry!!
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Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:18 pm

I\'ve heard both that too much calcium is possible and that it isn\'t really a worry with turts. The symptoms of too much Vit. D3 are similar to those of having not enough Vit. D 3. If you feed a varied, balanced diet, your turtle should be OK. I used Rep-cal as well, and my RES gets it about twice a week (he\'s going on 3 years of age--if he were a hatchling, I\'d give it a bit more often). The Rep-Cal contains Vit D3 and he also gets some Vit D3 he gets commerical food like Reptomin. He basks a lot under a combo UVB/UVA mercury vapor light, which gives out a lot of UVB rays compared to regular UVB lights. He gets a lot of plant matter that has good calcium content (dandelions, kale, collards, chicory, etc.) I also keep a few pieces of cuttlebone floating in his tank as a secondary calcium supplement and replace as needed. I think www.tortoisetrust.org has info on the calcium/phosphorus/Vit D3 connection if you do a search on the site (sorry, don\'t have the link in front of me).
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:10 am

thx a lot...i will check it out...
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Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:33 pm

what do pyramids look like does anyone have pix
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:56 pm

its like raised bumps on the turtles shell that come to a rounded point each scute becomes one not something you realy want to happen :!:
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