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bradsc78
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I have two filters and am using carbon and the water turns brown and cloudy after just a couple of days after I clean it. It also stinks bad. What can I do to keep the tank from discoloring like this and is there something causing it that I dont know about. The filters I am using are fluvall 4 which is huge and another small filter from zoomeds. I only have 2 small turtles in a 30 gallon tank. Help!!!
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:29 pm

The only thing I can think of is, are you feeding your turtles in the tank?, if so don\'t, I feed my turtles in a cake pan, (aluminum)after they are done eating I return them to their tank, I used to feed them in the tank and their water was getting too dirty too quick, that is why I don\'t do it anymore, I\'m too lazy to be cleaning that often:D
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:35 pm

do you have rocks or sand.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:52 pm

I do not have anything in the tank, just water. I have tried to feed in seperate contatiner, even tried to wait a few days to feed and they refuse to eat in a seperate container.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:16 pm

Try different foods to get them to eat in the container, shrimp, chicken(cooked), tuna (in water), or blood worms, my turtles like bloodworms, they are sold at walmart.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:44 pm

That\'s wierd. My turtle is bigger than yours but the tank still stays moderately clean.

By the way, STRAYKINGFISHER, how did you get that exploding Klingon bird of prey on your signature?
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:42 am

You should consider putting gravel in the bottom of your tank. Right now, there\'s nowhere for any of the waste to settle, so it constantly gets stirred up when your turtles swim around. Also, by not having any gravel in the bottom, you\'re limiting the biological processes that help break down the turtle waste.
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:35 am

makes sense although i thought gravel is only for decoration..but yes i just linked it,,places where i don\'t have gravel in the tank get dirtier than the gravel area
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:44 pm

do you have a basking area for your turtles?
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:40 pm

STRAYKINGFISHER wrote:
Try different foods to get them to eat in the container, shrimp, chicken(cooked), tuna (in water), or blood worms, my turtles like bloodworms, they are sold at walmart.
I just noticed you spend a lot of time at wal-mart. I love that place too!!!!!
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:42 pm

But like I said, dump and fill
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:48 pm

cstanton819 wrote

I just noticed you spend a lot of time at wal-mart. I love that place too!!!!!
Only when I have money, which is not that often:D:D
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cstanton819 wrote:
If the water gets dirty dirty it is usuallt the crumbs from whatever he ate.
so he eats his poop? ;)
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:21 pm

Dump and fill works well for smaller tanks, but I\'m not sure I\'d want to go through all that for a 30 gallon tank. I\'ve got my 3 turtles in a 40 gallon tank and couldn\'t imagine completely emptying it and refilling it.

I\'ve always considered my turtle tanks like my fish tanks, in that stability of the water chemistry is very important to the tank\'s inhabitants. That is why I suggest gravel in the bottom and then frequent vacuuming of sections of gravel with a siphon, rotating from section to section during progressive water changes. You\'ll be cleaning unsightly waste out of the tank, yet still leave behind enough of the \"old water\" to maintain a more stable system overall.
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:50 am

sometimes when my 40 gallon gets a bit too dirty and I\'m too lazy to clean it I borrow one of my brother\'s hang on canister filters.

Those babys make the water crystal clear after only like 2 days no matter what your water condition is.

the downside is if you can\'t \'borrow\' one from someone those cost a couple hundred bucks. =d
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:23 am

well i do the dump and fill method too....in my opinion.....i think the water gets dirty due to what u feed the babies...like me i only feed pellets those u buy for fish and they don`t dirty the tank much unless u continuelly feed them and not change the water after 4 days.....i change the water every 2 days and do the soap the tank thing ever sunday....i also feed shrimp once in a while just to give them a treat....so try out study ur tank and see what makes it dirty check everything that has to do with ur tank and turtles ok....God Bless
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:24 am

i do the dump and fill daily..no doubt it\'s easier without the gravel but the ones i have are relatively large so it doesn\'t bother that much..i dump them with the water too and just wash them..they are made of glass so i never felt they were slimy
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fsn77 wrote:
. That is why I suggest gravel in the bottom and then frequent vacuuming of sections of gravel with a siphon, rotating from section to section during progressive water changes. You\'ll be cleaning unsightly waste out of the tank, yet still leave behind enough of the \"old water\" to maintain a more stable system overall.
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT USE GRAVEL!!!!! I have 5 RESs and a few years ago, my turtle Shelby got very sick., lethargic to the point that he went limp when i picked him up, and would not eat. It turned out that his intestines were blocked because he had swallowed a piece of gravel. Those little pebbles are more than small enough to fit right down the throat of our little shelled friends. It took surgery and over $400 to save my little guy and he still barely eats because digestion is painful to him, all because nobody ever told me that gravel is absolutely deadly to turtles!
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:33 pm

I replaced all of my gravel with river rock, the turtles don\'t seem to care either way, and also alot easier to clean than gravel:D.

Sorry to hear about your turtle Richelle, I hope he is feeling better and also starts eating better.
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:40 pm

sorry for the little guy richelle..but we always mention it in bold: GRAVEL SHOULD BE LARGER THAN UR TURTLE\'S HEAD
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Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:42 pm

u can ad a couple of snail in there.they will help with the leftover food..i know gravel can be really dangerous but i\'m agree with the fact that u need a \"good bacterial community\" in ur tank...myself i add some product(for fish)who develop those good bacteria in ur tank and it make a big difference for the cloudy water...
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