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Bjorn
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Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:21 am

Two weeks ago I went to my local pet shop and brought my first turtle (RES). I choose him (or her) outta four there.

Today I went and got another from the same place, and choose outta the remaining three.

My Question: Will they recognize each other from back at the pet store and get along well?

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Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:45 am

since they were few then i think they will
that\'s so sweet:)
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Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:36 pm

Cheers. Yeah they seem to get along real well, and Draciel is alot more playful than he was before I got Rexxar. If I am to get a third one, then I will get it from the same store.

Thanks.
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:34 am

but the poor 4th baby will be left alone
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:17 am

Ok. Ill biuy both

Ap;ogies. Ive beens out drinking wiht my matess.
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:29 am

Bjorn, will you have room for all 4 when they get bigger - say 5 -8 inches? Keep that in mind before buying the last two. My hatchlings doubled in size during the first two months, and while I love all 3 - I should have stopped at 2. I\'m looking at a much bigger setup now, for 3 adults.
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Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:49 am

doubled in size during the first 2 months??
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:06 am

It\'s cool because that means they\'re healthy. Their shells are good and hard, they swim well, eyes clear, etc. And they\'re much friendlier. But...I hadn\'t figured on having to get a much larger set-up this soon.

Got a bigger basking ramp, and that\'s helping a lot - but I really need an indoor (so the possums won\'t eat them) pond set-up soon. Should have paid more attention to a posting where a fellow said his turtles grew 6\" in a year.
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:55 am

growing that much isn\'t normal..maybe hormones in food?
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:28 pm

I think the doubling in size for the hatchlings is normal - given plenty of food and space. (Baby reptomin and lots of water to swim in, in my case.) The 6\" in one year seems a lot (I hope!); I thought it took my original set 2-3 years to reach that size... but that was a long time ago so I could be wrong.
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:30 pm

6 inches in 2-3 years is ok but too much for one year..ok what if someone gets a very large tank from the begining..turtles won\'t have space phobia right?
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:55 pm

Can\'t imagine semi- aquatics (RES, Map, YBS, etc) would - areas by ponds and streams are the natural habitat. I put my 3 babies right into a 5 1/2 gallon tank FULL of water (floating ramp, w/graduated steps) and they LOVED it. Active semi-aquatic turtles are great, natural swimmers; they love water. I think we tend toward less water because it\'s easier for US, and we see more of the turtles. I\'m a firm believer in more swimming space.
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:25 pm

by my own experience i believe u can stop the growing of a hatchling if they are in a too small tank..but i soon as they are in a tank of proper size they grow faster to reach the size they suppose to be...like my little one,she gain around 3 1/2 inch in 4 month and she was close to a year but the guy who have her before keep her in a pot stove(cause he brake the death bowl)and on my side when i got her i put her right away in 33 gallon fishtank with 25 gallon of water...i might be wrong,i just assume that cause of my experience...
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:51 pm

I think you\'re right. That\'s why when they used to sell the little plastic bowls (with little plastic palm trees) for hatchlings, the hatchlings didn\'t grow - and frequently died.
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:46 am

hmmmmmmm interesting
but there\'s no harm in doing it for some time
i gotta try it
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:10 am

i don\'t think u should...it\'s like putting urself in a corset for make sure u stay slim...it\'s cruel and affect your body,same for the turtle...mine grow so fast,that she did excessive shedding and her shell doesn\'t look healty..she have weird bump and dark spot who look like burn...
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Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:37 am

well she\'s already punished..lol
but yeah i think it\'s cruel..i\'ll never harm my turtles even if i have to by them a swimming pool
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Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:07 am

I will only be getting one more. Apologies for stating four, I was drunk.

Anyway, I have access to a much larger tank. My girlfriend keeps her turtle outside and has a very large tank she offered to me for free.

Thanks

-Bjorn, NZ
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Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:35 pm

That\'s great Bjorn! Let us know how they do in the larger tank - and how fast they grow.
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Sun Oct 24, 2004 8:42 pm

Thanks. I\'ll do that. I will probably pay for the tank, even though she won\'t let me, I\'d feel much better if I payed for it.

-Bjorn, NZ.
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Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:08 pm

ha :) bjorn, i thought u were joking
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Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:12 pm

Alright, what you all have heard is WRONG, with a capital W, turtles do not just grow the the size of the containers, they will continue to grow, thats why those plastic bowls they put in in are called death bowls, there is no way to regulate heat in those bowls and the turtle often gets sick and dies. Think about it, if you were kept in a small 2x2 box since you were born would you stay the size of the box, NO!! ofcourse you wouldnt, res need atleast 55 gallons for males and often times 100 gallons for females. I would NEVER, and i stress never keep a turtles in a small plastic bowl or even a hatchling in anything smaller than a 10 gallon which is still to small, for more information about res you can check out www.resoasis.com and www.turtleforum.com and www.austinsturtlepage.com I recommend you read all of these sites, i dont mean to be rude at all, i know you all love your turtles and try your best but some of the information your getting isnt correct, dont listen to every tall tale you get.
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Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:14 pm

I forgot to add that res shouldnt be doubling in size in the first few months, it should take roughly 2 years for a res to reach 4 inches, and thats growing healthy. After 2.5 inches or a year old i reccomend feeding every other day. If you feed your turtles to much you can cause pyramiding in their shells.
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:23 am

What is pyramiding in the shell? I\'ve spotted the term on Austin\'s Turtle page, and now here - but no explanation. If you have a good site for me to go to, please post it. I\'m concerned about the amount my turts eat, but from Austin\'s (and other sources) it seems there is no definitive answer to \"how much?\" My three (RES, Map, yellow belly slider) are all in the 2 1/2 - 3 1/4 inch range, and they are fed twice a day. They usually get reptomin baby pellets - about 30/feeding. (That\'s for all 3.) They eat these within 5 minutes. I give no other food supplements other than Anacharis (live plant) in the tank. Occasionaly they get baby shrimp, and the Map gets a few meal worms (the other 2 don\'t like those).

I\'m working off the feeding theory that works for other animals: babies need a balanced diet, and the pre-made specific for the species stuff is better than a lot of filler and junk. Plus, this is what the breeder said to give them.....and the local pet store co-owner (a turtle nut too) says this is best. The turles are thriving (all but the escape artist have doubled in size w/in the first 2 months), and I ignore the begging for additional food - most of the time....
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Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:13 am

seems from the word pyramiding that it means when the turtle\'s shell is very steep from the top..i mean it\'s like the opposite of a flattened shell..(and extremes are not good)
so i think pyramiding is having the shell grow from top when there isn\'t enough space for it to grow normally in width and length (so it\'s like a 3rd axis, x,y,and Z) something from geometry if u get what i mean
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:46 am

well I now have the three turtles. They love their tank and seem to be very happy, upgrading to a larger tank in a couple weeks, although they probably wont need it straight away, its best to be prepared.

-Bjorn
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:30 pm

I agree Bjorn, which is why my next one will be 75+ gallons. Not big enough for all 3 eventually, but one may have to be in another tank anyway - may end up with 2 males and one female. Too soon to be 100% certain, but looks that way to me.

Found a really good page on pyramiding:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/trachemyscare.htm All my turts got a good checking last night, and think the food has to be cut back for 2 of them - but it could be from lighting too. New tank will solve the lighting problem; I have to have the resolve to stop feeding them so much!
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:03 pm

I would take a look at this site for feeding, http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Articl ... woften.htm everybody has different ways. It is hard to tell what size a heatlhy turtle should be at 1 year of age b/c they all grow at different rates, but i do know that you cant tell what sex a res is at 1 year. You shouldnt be able to if you can. Im definatley not an expert but the people on www.turtleforum.com are, this is the site where i learned alot. I started at allturtles than moved to a bigger forum, but i still visit here occasionally.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:30 pm

I\'ve read Austin\'s, which is why I\'ve been OK with the greater feedings. But hadn\'t read about pyramiding....and think I need to read more. Don\'t want hungry turtles, and they already decimate an Anacharis bunch per week.
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