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oh, no...please help me (and i hope it doesn't end up badly)

 
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j99901
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:43 pm    Post subject: oh, no...please help me (and i hope it doesn't end up badly) Reply with quote

hi, all. this is lengthy; sorry: i really need your help and advice, and want to give as much info as possible--i'm in tears Sad :

i got a RES last week (eight to 12 months old, i was told; shell perhaps five inches long). he's been living in my pond (about six feet long/three-four feet wide/two-three feet at the deepest point). prior to turtle's arrival, it held 350--450 gallons.

his "roomates" are large comets. there were already water hyacinth there to help with algae, and a small waterfall/stream (perhaps two feet higher than the pond).

the first day, he was coming up and taking food from me, and not a bit shy (his lack of fear was why i chose him at the pet-shop).

then he got a wee skittish...after not seeing him for a whole day last week, i thought he'd somehow gotten out, even though i'd made certain that the pond was modifed for turtle. for two nights in a row, i prowled my lot and that of my neighbor (even up and down the street) to see if he was about. i had, the first night, waded into the pond, and felt something--not a fish--scoot past--and was pretty sure he was there. i looked around just the same.

nope--next day, there he was, bobbing in the water. even though i'd ensured that the pond had ledges all around, i re-checked: pretty tough to climb out, even for a RES. as an extra precaution, when i did a small-volume water-change, i did not replace what i'd removed (just a few gallons made a difference in the water-level). i'd used tap-water to replace pond-water, letting it sit about 24 hours to get rid of whatver ick is comes out of the faucets here.

yesterday i added a basking-log (a left-over piece of cedar fencing from two years ago), making sure it was wedged in place--one part high enough for him to get out and take the air; the lower part safe-guarded against any temptation to rock-climbing.

i saw him yesterday, and i think he used the log--i heard a great <SPLASH> at one point as i approached the pond. later he had a bit of reptomin, and it looked like he'd nibbled at the cuttlebone i put in the water (my finch has ignored it forever).

i didn't see him today at all. at first i thought it was a replay of last week--that he was just holing up (for whatever reason) or bad timing. as with last week, i'd see the occasional bubble from his normal hidey-hole and along the route he normally swims toward the 'fall. so i just kept checking. no turtle.

then i read something on the board about whether another poster's turtle had gotten stuck between rocks.

soo...just now i went out and for at least an hour i dredged the pond with the net i use to skim (net did not fare well). i even lay on my belly to feel around in there (bleah). i removed each rock i could find. one of the fish was beneath a rock on the bottom. fish was not in what i'd call pristine condition. if turtle had been snacking on it, i guess it was a right pay-back for all the bullying he's endured from those fish (one was stealing reptomin right out of his mouth).

still no turtle.

it's getting dark; i'll go out w/ the great lamp i used last week and see if i can spot him in the water (if it's cleared, that is).

tomorrow i plan to drain as much of the pond as i can; rather, bucket out the water, as i haven't a pump, and don't much fancy siphoning (sucking pond-water...ew). the fish and hyacinth will go into pails of pond-water (since that's their "home turf").

IF i find turtle (i'm heart-broken here), i won't have the time to let the replacement water sit for 24 hours. when i'd had to add water before, i just let the garden-hose drizzle into the pond--fish did fine with it over the past year or so. so...what to do?

1. if i refill as i've always done, what might i use to clean/purify the water before putting turtle back in? or...
2. should i get a large plastic container for temporary turtle "digs" until the water has been in the pond a few days?

it's quite warm here right now (90s--100s), so i'm not too concerned about keeping the water warm if he's contained: he can stay in a closed-off room that gets good sun-light.

again: i'm sorry for the long post. this is my first turtle; i've always done well with the beasties, and i didn't expect to get so attached to the little guy so quickly. i see such good advice here, and hope someone can give me a little guidance.

thank you Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about chemicals for faster water cleaning. If they make it for fish tanks they have to make it for ponds. I think that would help you with finding something to put the turtle in for 2 days. www.thatpetplace.com. Check out there free catologs. They have a whole line of pond products.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the only thing that you would really need for the tap water would be a dechlorinator, I doubt there is anything else in the water or else the city would not allow people to use it. Follow the directions on the bottle, the one I use says to use a capful for 20 gallons, so I use a capful and a half, since I have a 29 gallon tank. They carry several kinds of dechlorinators at the petstore.

This is the one I use:
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, all. yes, i found some--at wal-mart. i was there at about 6:00 and got a huge tub for turle, and another for fishies. i found my old pump & sosme tubing, and pumped out the water.

no turtle Sad

i went through the wood-pile, under the grape-vines, through weeds...you name it.

i cannot imagine how he got out--he'd have had to hang upside down! so my neighbor knows about turtle, and i've put out two planter-dishes filled with water (one in sun; one in shade). no one else has a pond hereabouts, and the closest river is two or so miles. it is my hope that he'll come back on his own.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he come back??
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TallysMom wrote:
Did he come back??


if he did, i haven't seen him. i topped off the pond--the better for sliding back in. the water hyacinth blanket the pond now, and if he's there, he's well hidden (as are the fishies). part of me thinks he's out there hiding; part of me is of a mind to get "turtle II" and keep him indoors. (turtle I will be seriously grounded if he does show his pointy little mug .....

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow it's amazing how to got that attached to him!! i mean ok i love my turtles but maybe i didn't have the chance to show them how i love them that much Surprised

anyways, i hope he'll be back soon. could it be that he's digging in the ground and hiding??
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